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    Man Utd fans demand PGMOL explanation as Ait-Nouri handball NOT given barely 24 hours after De Ligt penalty decision

    MAN UTD fans have demanded an explanation from the PGMOL after Nottingham Forest were denied a penalty against Wolves.Ola Aina’s cross hit Molineux left-back Rayan Ait-Nouri’s arm in the box just 24 hours after Matthijs de Ligt was penalised on Sunday.Ola Aina’s cross hit Rayan Ait-Nouri’s arm in the boxRef Peter Bankes waved on before VAR confirmed his decisionIt came just 24 hours after Matthijs de Ligt conceded a penalty against Liverpool for an outstretched armForest went into the break 2-0 ahead thanks to goals from Morgan Gibbs-White and Chris Wood.But the scoreline could have been even greater had Nuno Espirito Santo’s side been awarded a penalty for a handball by Ait-Nouri.The Algeria international’s arm appeared to be outstretched in the area as the ball struck it in the 33rd minute.It looks as though the 23-year-old attempted to pull it back in at the same time.READ MORE ON MAN UTDVAR decided not to send referee Peter Bankes to the monitor and no penalty was awarded.The Premier League Match Centre posted on X: “The referee’s call was checked and confirmed by VAR, who deemed his arm was in a natural position.”Yet a penalty decision in United’s 2-2 draw at Anfield caused an equal amount of controversy as Liverpool were awarded a spot-kick after the ball bounced off De Ligt’s arm in the 68th minute.The incident was missed by ref Michael Oliver in real-time but he later overturned his decision after being sent to the monitor by VAR Chris Kavanagh.Most read in FootballFOOTBALL FREE BETS AND SIGN UP DEALSAndre Onana dived left and almost stopped Mohamed Salah’s spot-kick but the Egyptian’s effort had too much power.The PGMOL reviewed the two incidents differently despite Cody Gakpo being mere metres away from De Ligt, who blocked his Dutch team-mate’s header from travelling towards Onana.The match centre posted on X on Sunday: “VAR recommended an on-field review for a possible handball by De Ligt, deeming that his arm was raised in an unnatural position.”But United fans have pointed to the similarities between the two incidents as both players had their arms extended.Youtuber Mark Goldbridge led the charge with: “Can the PGMOL explain why De Ligt’s handball is a penalty yesterday but Ait-Nouri’s handball isn’t one? De Ligt was far closer to the ball!”Another fan wrote: “What is the difference between the Wolves one and De Ligt one yesterday?”While beloved footie presenter Jeff Stelling had an even stronger assessment.The former Sky Sports Soccer Saturday host wrote: “One of the worst decisions I have seen all season!”A fourth said: “How on earth has VAR ruled out that Ait Nouri handball??”One more fumed: “Where is the consistency? None of us even understand the handball rule anymore 😡.”READ MORE SUN STORIESThe decision on Monday didn’t affect Forest too much as Wood doubled their lead 11 minutes later.Nuno went on to beat his former side 3-0 to go level with Arsenal in second, who are also six points behind Prem leaders Liverpool.Man Utd player ratings vs Liverpool By Gary Stonehouse Andre Onana – 7Saved well from Alexis Mac Allister early on and looked strong on set-pieces – could do nothing about either goal and almost stopped Mo Salah’s penalty.Another two saves right at the death helped his men earn a point.Noussair Mazraoui – 7Strong performance to help frustrate Liverpool and produced important interceptions and tackles to clear danger.Matthijs de Ligt – 7The Dutchman was another impressive member of the back three and seemed on a mission not to leave Anfield without a share of the spoils.Harry Maguire – 7Marshalled the defence well and won several big tackles and clearances.Had his day spoiled by a yellow card for what looked to a be another great challenge and then blazed over right at the death.Lisandro Martinez – 7Excellent alongside the rest of the back three and finished his strike like a seasoned striker.Diogo Dalot – 7Played on the front foot and was an attacking threat throughout but landed himself a booking for a needless and blatant foul on Mo Salah.Kobbie Mainoo – 7Great defensive and compact display as he got the better of his England rival Curtis Jones in front of Thomas Tuchel.Was only taken off after United fell behind as his manager went more offensive. Manuel Ugarte – 6Just got caught out of position and was punished for Cody Gakpo’s goal, which marred an otherwise hard-fought and disciplined display.Amad Diallo – 7Turning into a man capable of producing big moments after another crucial strike. Had messed up twice in two earlier attacks but took his goal superbly.Bruno Fernandes – 8The skipper was on top form for the Red Devils both defensively and with the ball. Led his team well and fully deserved at least a point.Rasmus Hojlund – 5Came underfire for slack marking from Fernandes early doors then blew a big chance after beating the offside trap – a chance you NEED to take at Anfield.Struggled to make much of an impact with the ball. More

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    ‘This is RIDICULOUS’ – Ian Wright in meltdown over ‘worst officials in Europe’ after Arsenal’s draw with Brighton

    IAN WRIGHT fumed that Prem refs are the “worst in Europe” after Brighton were awarded a controversial penalty against Arsenal.William Saliba was judged to have fouled Joao Pedro after he mistimed a header and caught the Seagulls striker.Ian Wright slammed the penalty decisionCredit: ReutersWilliam Saliba was judged to have fouled Joao PedroThe Arsenal defender avoided a red card with VAR sticking by referee Anthony Taylor’s decision.But Wright disagreed with the decision to award a penalty and fumed that it was given.He said on Optus Sport: “I don’t know what to believe anymore. This is ridiculous. We have the worst officials in Europe.”Mikel Arteta was equally as bemused as he made his feelings clear post-match.READ MORE IN FOOTBALLHe told Sky Sports: “I have never seen something like this in my life.”I am really disappointed. He touches the ball as well!”Fans argued over whether the correct decision was made as the Premier League released a statement on the incident.It read: “The referee’s call of penalty for a foul by Saliba on Pedro was checked and confirmed by VAR, who deemed there was sufficient contact for a penalty.”Most read in FootballBEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERSThe decision proved crucial as Pedro converted the penalty to equalise, with the match ending 1-1.The Gunners dropped yet more points in the title race and are now five points behind Liverpool having played two games more.Arsenal Invincible and cult hero reveals we’ve all been saying his name wrong for nearly 45 years More

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    Premier League release statement on Brighton’s penalty against Arsenal after VAR check on William Saliba challenge

    THE PREMIER LEAGUE have released a statement on the decision to award Brighton a penalty after William Saliba headbutted Joao Pedro.Saliba made contact on the Brighton striker using his head but avoided a red card.William Saliba was judged to have fouled Joao PedroVAR confirmed referee Anthony Taylor’s callCredit: ReutersReferee Anthony Taylor did deem the challenge to be a foul however so awarded the Seagulls a penalty, which Pedro converted.VAR reviewed the incident and confirmed the ref’s decision to award a spot kick.The Premier League match centre have since clarified the incident, confirming the decision made by the ref and VAR.It wrote on X: “The referee’s call of penalty for a foul by Saliba on Pedro was checked and confirmed by VAR, who deemed there was sufficient contact for a penalty.”READ MORE ON ARSENALFans were split on the incident with one Arsenal fan arguing it should have not been a penalty.They wrote: “In what world is this a penalty against Saliba????”A fan hit back, saying: “100 per cent pen. If you go to kick the ball and catch the player late it’s a foul, no different with head! It’s a late foul!”Another added: “Clear penalty!”Most read in FootballBEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERSAnd a third wrote: “It’s a clear penalty. You can see clearly the tackle stopped Pedro from advancing forward.”Ethan Nwaneri had put Arsenal in front in the first half but they were unable to find another after Pedro’s equaliser, with the match finishing 1-1.Amazon Prime Video presenter and John Legend give fans ‘second hand embarrassment’ after Arsenal’s win over IpswichArsenal player ratings: Ethan Nwaneri is perfect Bukayo Saka replacement but Gabriel Jesus goes missing against BrightonETHAN NWANERI was the brightest spark on the pitch as Arsenal lost further ground int he title race.SunSport’s Isabelle Barker has given her ratings for the Arsenal players…DAVID RAYA – 6The Spanish stopper didn’t have too much to deal with apart from Joao Pedro’s penalty which he went the wrong way for. He couldn’t have done too much about it though, it was a classy finish into the other corner.THOMAS PARTEY – 6Partey was ok to start with at right-back but the experiment still looked unconvincing in the second-half, with him struggling to handle Kaoru Mitoma when the Japanese international came on.WILLIAM SALIBA – 6The French centre-back was solid up until conceding the crucial penalty for dangerous play against Pedro in the box. If it had been a headbutt, Saliba would have been sent off, in fairness it looked as though he was going for the ball, and it was an unfortunate clash of heads.GABRIEL MAGALHAES – 5Started off solidly at the back but faded out with little answers for Brighton’s pressure towards the end.RICCARDO CALAFIORI – 7Calafiori was superb, particularly in the first half against Brighton, with the stats speaking for themselves. He won the most duels, completed the most take ons and most tackles. He also misplaced just one of his 22 passes.JORGINHO – 6The ex-Chelsea man struggled to receive the ball under pressure, nearly costing Arsenal a goal for the hosts. Generally looked too slow for the game this evening.MIKEL MERINO – 7The Spanish midfielder linked up beautifully with Rice for the opener, producing a lovely pass over the top for Nwaneri to latch onto. Merino faded out towards the end though, looking more sluggish and ponderous on the ball as the minutes went by.DECLAN RICE – 7The midfielder was the furthest forward, pressing the Brighton backline with Jesus and it worked at first.He took on the Odegaard role when Arsenal didn’t have possession. Was involved with first big chance with Jesus and then pulled the strings for Nwaneri’s opener.LEANDRO TROSSARD – 6The Brighton faithful were booing Trossard from the get go but he didn’t show up to silence them. The Belgian winger offered very little going forward.ETHAN NWANERI – 8So good from Nwaneri for the opener. He was involved in the build up with Rice and Merino then put on the afterburners to produce a charging run before slotting the ball into the bottom corner.What a good replacement Nwaneri has been for Bukayo Saka. He fits the bill with pace, body shape, and a lovely left foot.GABRIEL JESUS – 5The striker lashed a shot at Verbruggen for an early warning, but he was offside anyway, wasting the delicious through ball from Jorginho. Was virtually anonymous by the end and Arsenal won’t be able to win the league with a striker like that.SubstitutesMARTIN ODEGAARD – 6GABRIEL MARTINELLI – 6 More

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    Aston Villa star Jhon Duran facing extended ban that will leave Unai Emery seething after red card versus Newcastle

    ASTON VILLA star Jhon Duran has been charged by the FA for acting in an “improper manner” after he was red-carded against Newcastle on Boxing Day.The Colombian striker was controversially sent off by referee Anthony Taylor for allegedly stamping on Fabian Schar during the 3-0 defeat.Jhon Duran was sent off for appearing to stamp on Fabian ScharCredit: GettyThe incident occurred in Villa’s 3-0 loss to NewcastleCredit: ReutersDuran was sent off despite a VAR checkCredit: ReutersThe striker has been charged with misconduct for his reaction to the red cardCredit: GettyVilla appealed Duran’s three-match ban but their pleas fell on deaf ears at the FA.And now chiefs have added insult to injury by slapping the 21-year-old with a further misconduct charge for his reaction to the dismissal.Duran was so incensed by the red card that he remonstrated with the fourth official on the touchline and kicked a water bottle away.Duran served the first match of his ban last night when he missed Villa’s 2-2 draw with Brighton.READ MORE IN FOOTBALLBut now the striker could face a further ban for his angry reaction.The FA has given him until Friday to respond to the charge.Duran is already certain to miss Saturday’s home game against Leicester and the FA Cup third round clash with West Ham.Writing in the match programme ahead of the Brighton game, Emery said: “Referees are not using enough and correctly the VAR.Most read in FootballFOOTBALL FREE BETS AND SIGN UP DEALS”The VAR came to help us avoid injustice or mistakes, and to protect whatever it takes for the on-field decisions to be delivered – right or wrong – by the referee.”If we start to use VAR in a political way, we are forgetting that the video tool is here to protect the game and the fairness of the competition.Aiden McGeady on ‘f— you’ message from Unai Emery”VAR is not a tool to protect or to be under any ego, any system or any individual. “VAR cannot be overused to break the spirit of the game but if it is existing and available, VAR neither must be underused on purpose and let big mistakes happen without using all the tools correctly.”Those comments could land Emery in hot water as well, with FA chiefs having to determine if he crossed the threshold between having an opinion on the operation of the system or a direct criticism of the integrity of the officials involved.Villa’s director of football operations Damian Vidagany also slammed the Duran sending off, saying: “The most damaged here is not Villa, it is the credibility of the ones that made this decision.“We are going to keep fighting, nothing will destroy us and we will overcome all these unfair decisions. And we will behave like gentlemen.”Unai Emery slammed VAR after Duran’s red cardCredit: Reuters More

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    Major VAR change for Carabao Cup semi-finals that’s never been seen before in English football

    FIFA-style in-stadium referee VAR explanations will be used for the first time in England for the Carabao Cup semi-finals.Until now, while Prem clubs do give more information over decisions changed after VAR intervention over their giant screens, refs have not been heard.Referees will explain decisions after going to the monitorCredit: GettyBut after the game’s Lawmakers Ifab signalled a confirmation that in-stadium announcements will be allowed worldwide from the start of next season, EFL bosses have agreed with PGMOL to trial the new system in the remaining matches in competition.That does not mean a full explanation of decisions by referees and will only apply when the on-field call is altered after a VAR intervention – whether a “factual” call by Stockley Park or after a visit to the pitchside monitor on a “subjective” decision.If a change is confirmed, the referee will be able to announce in simple terms such as “attacking player No 14 was offside, no goal” or “handball by defender No 17, penalty kick” to let the crowd know the basic reason for the new decision.VAR has not been used in this season’s Carabao Cup so far – meaning Manchester United’s complaints about a “foul” by Tottenham’s Lucas Bergvall on keeper Altay Bayindir after Son Heung-min’s late corner ended up in their net were to no avail.READ MORE IN FOOTBALLBut it was always intended that it would be brought in for the two-legged semi-finals and the Wembley final on March 16.The new approach will first be available for Arsenal’s game with Newcastle on January 7 and then at Tottenham the next day when they face Liverpool.Ahead of the trial being launched, PGMOL bosses have included practice announcement procedures at training camps and also inside top flight grounds.PGMOL say the move – likely to be extended to the Prem next season if it is deemed a success – is part of a “broader commitment to transparency including providing greater clarity and understanding around key decisions”.Most read in FootballBEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERSTottenham defeated Man Utd 4-3 in a dramatic quarter-final to book their place in the last four.A much-changed Liverpool side, meanwhile, won 2-1 at Southampton.’Referee had no choice but to award a penalty after Tyrone Mings’ schoolboy error – he’s absolutely spot on’Arsenal beat Crystal Palace 3-2 courtesy of Gabriel Jesus’ hat-trick.And Newcastle overcame Brentford 3-1 at St James’ Park. More

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    Brighton 0 Brentford 0: Premier League release statement after Joao Pedro escapes red card despite elbow

    BRIGHTON star Joao Pedro escaped a red card during a goalless Premier League draw with Brentford at the Amex Stadium.Pedro, 23, and the Bees’ Yehor Yarmolyuk vied for the ball on 75 minutes.Brighton star Joao Pedro escaped a red card against BrentfordCredit: ReutersPedro appeared set to elbow Brentford’s Yehor YarmolyukCredit: ReutersVAR deemed there was no violent conduct from Brighton’s PedroCredit: ReutersAnd Yarmolyuk, 20, committed a foul, for which he was booked by referee Andrew Madley.However, VAR intervened to check for potential violent conduct by the Seagulls striker after the Ukrainian committed the foul.Replays showed Pedro appearing to swing an elbow towards Yarmolyuk’s face.The Brazil international looked ready to deliver the blow but rapidly withdrew at the last moment.Read More on FootballReplays also showed the Brazilian had clearly made little contact if any.However, VAR deemed there was no violent conduct and Pedro was spared his marching orders.The Premier League released a statement explaining why Brighton weren’t left with ten men.And the announcement claims that is because the referee’s call was “not clear and obviously wrong”.Most read in FootballBEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERSThe Prem statement read: “The referee’s call of no red card to Joao Pedro for violent conduct was checked and confirmed by VAR, who deemed the referee’s call was not clear and obviously wrong.”The scoreline remained the same after the controversial incident, which means the two clubs’ winless streaks go on.Premier League club announces major stadium changes with new capacity and away fans moved However, injury-hit Brentford will be happier with the draw than Brighton. It was only Thomas Frank’s side’s second point on the road all season rather than the first away win they had hoped for.But with their injury situation reaching crisis point it was probably more than some of their fans expected.Brighton, meanwhile, are without a victory anywhere in six successive games – all against teams who had been in the bottom half of the table when they played them. The Seagulls’ temporary rise up to second place in the table at the back end of last month is becoming a distant memory.And they were perhaps fortunate that VAR ruled out a Brentford goal in the first half.Brentford’s injury hellThe Bees rolled up at a misty Amex Stadium without NINE injured players and it was ten by half-time as goalkeeper Mark Flekken limped off to be replaced by Iceland stopper Hakon Valdimarsson for his Premier League debut.But Flekken had made his mark before being replaced. Brighton went in search of goals from the kick-off and were nearly ahead after four minutes. Carlos Baleba picked off a poor pass out Flekken and fed Pedro. The Brazilian teed up Julio Enciso, whose curler beat Flekken’s left hand but smacked back off the post.Then Baleba sent Flekken full-length with a snap shot from the edge of the penalty area, and Enciso tested the Brentford goalkeeper with a header from Kaoru Mitoma’s cross.But Brentford had the ball in the net first. After 13 minutes Yoane Wissa ran onto Mads Roerslev’s pass infield from the right and hit a shot high past Bart Verbruggen and into the top far corner. It seemed he had scored his first career goal against the Seagulls and also joined Ivan Toney as the club’s leading Premier League scorer with 36 goals. Brentford denied openerBut VAR Chris Kavanagh ruled that he had been fractionally offside, by a kneecap.Soon Flekken was in action again, clutching a 22-yard free-kick from Germany Under-21 winger Brajan Gruda, and then diving to his right to parry a shot by Matt O’Riley. So Brentford fans’ hearts were in their mouths when the keeper stayed down after kicking clear from a deflected cross from Mitoma.Flekken carried on for a while, but was replaced after 35 minutes by Valdimarsson, who has 17 caps for Iceland but had not featured for Brentford since signing last January from Elfsborg.Mikkel Damsgaard relieved the pressure for a while with a run past three Brighton defenders that finally ended when Joel Veltman put an uncompromising foot in. And the action switched back to the other end, where O’Riley’s effort was deflected wide and then Mitoma half-volleyed into the side-netting.’Same old story’To Albion fans this felt a bit like the same old story of recent matches, as they were dominating possession but could not score.By half-time they had had 15 shots to Brentford’s two but only six on target and were sometimes guilty of looking to walk the ball in.The crowd were getting restless, hoping for fewer flicks and tricks and more purpose. And there was the constant danger of a Brentford breakaway goal, which nearly came when Christian Norgaard’s scissor-kick was diverted just wide with Verbruggen scrambling. Or when Nathan Collins got his head on a set play but sent the ball high into the ranks of visiting fans behind the goal.The home side had scored in each of their previous 13 games and boss Fabian Hurzeler threw on wingers Yankuba Minteh and Simon Adingra to try to keep that run going. And then record £40million summer signing Georginio Rutter.READ MORE SUN STORIESBut although most of the action was still in and around the Brentford penalty area, Valdimarsson was not nearly as busy as Flekken had been. And the team from West London were beginning to believe that they could nick a win.Brighton even sent on long-serving winger Solly March for his first appearance since suffering a serious knee ligament injury 434 days before. But they continued to dither when the chances came to strike for goal.Brighton and Brentford played out a goalless Premier League drawCredit: ReutersBrentford star Yoane Wissa thought he scored but his goal was ruled out by VARCredit: Alamy More

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    Major change to FA Cup confirmed with Arsenal vs Man Utd clash to look very different from Premier League

    THE FA Cup will not use VAR until the fifth round this season.In previous campaigns since 2019, all FA Cup matches played at Premier League stadiums have utilised VAR.The tie between Arsenal and Man Utd will be played without VARCredit: GettyIn a major change to this season’s competition, however, technology will only come into play from the fifth round onwards.Should non-Premier League sides remain at that stage, and be drawn at home, VAR will be deployed at their venue.The significant change has been made to ensure consistency across rounds.An FA statement read: “Video Assistant Referees (VAR) will only be used in the 2024-25 Emirates FA Cup from the Fifth Round onwards.READ MORE IN FOOTBALL”It has been agreed that VAR will be utilised for every match in the Fifth Round of the competition through to the Final at Wembley Stadium, and will not be in operation for the Third and Fourth Rounds.”VAR has only been used in the Emirates FA Cup previously for matches at Wembley Stadium and at Premier League grounds due to the infrastructure, workforce and costs that are required for its operation.”This decision ensures that there is a consistent refereeing approach for all clubs taking part in the same stage of the competition.”Several Premier League sides have been drawn at home and would have had VAR for their third round ties in previous seasons.Most read in FootballBEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERSToday’s news means that Arsenal’s clash with Manchester United will now be played without VAR.Other Premier League sides drawn at home include Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester City.Ruben Amorim on shock Rashford, Garnacho exclusionsVAR was first trialled in the FA Cup during the 2017-18 season.In 2022, the FA were forced to defend the use of VAR in some FA Cup ties and not in others, after just nine of 32 third round ties used the technology. More

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    EFL could have managers’ ‘challenge’ system introduced in low-cost alternative to VAR

    LOWER division clubs could see a “challenge” system in operation to overturn refereeing bloopers.Lawmakers on the International FA Board have agreed to extend the trials of their new “Football Video Support” system on a global basis.Lower league matches could get an alternative to VAR with a new ‘challenge’ systemCredit: PAIn a variation of VAR, the VS system is designed for competitions with only a handful of cameras.Coaches are allowed to call a challenge, with the referee then reviewing the incident on a pitch-side monitor, with the footage supplied by a video technician.As in cricket and tennis, successful challenges are retained with each team allowed two unsuccessful challenges per match.The system was trialled at the recent under-17 Women’s World Cup in the Dominican Republic, where England finished fourth.READ MORE IN FOOTBALLEngland coach Natalie Henderson successfully challenged a goal awarded to Mexico in their second group match, with the referee agreeing the ball had not crossed the line after a video review.And now Ifab bosses want to roll out what they view as a “low cost alternative to VAR” to both smaller countries and lower tier competitions in wealthier nations.Ifab technical director and former Premier League ref David Elleray said: “It is mainly designed for competitions where you’ve only got one, two, three or maximum four cameras.“So Leagues One and Two could be in that, or the National League, or whatever.Most read in EFLFOOTBALL FREE BETS AND SIGN UP DEALS“And what it does emphasise – and away from VAR – is the clear and obvious concept.“Because when you’ve only got one camera it’s got to be pretty clear and obvious for the decision to be changed.Fans left stunned at worst VAR offside line in history as they joke ‘absolutely NOT rigged’ – but all is not as it seems“So it’ll either be at the top end of smaller countries or lower down in bigger countries.“FIFA have tested it, it’s working very well and therefore we will now explore where else it could be trialled, probably for next season.”EFL clubs have so far been resistant to bringing in VAR, with cost one issue.Many fans, though, have compared the EFL match-day experience favourably to the situation in the Prem when supporters frequently complained of feeling “in the dark” over VAR reviews.But Patrick Nelson, chief executive of the Irish FA who will host Ifab’s formal AGM in March that will confirm the policy, said: “We need to emphasise that it’s not VAR.“It’s different from VAR but it’s an alternative to it. And it relies upon the challenge system being promoted by the coaches.“In countries who have got VAR, three or four levels down the pyramid you might again have leagues with only one or two cameras.“We’re talking about two challenges per coach per game and it’s up to the coaches to determine when they want the referee to come over to the side and to take a look at something.“So we’re extending the trials on it and we’re trying to learn more about it. And as the price will come down, it will get democratised and hopefully it will get rolled out further.”But Ifab pushed back at the idea that the introduction of the system could eventually see a “hybrid” version of VAR, with video refs determining offside and line calls and subjective decisions open to challengeElleray added: “There’s no reason to have challenges with VAR because the video match officials check every single incident.READ MORE SUN STORIES“So there’s no need for the coach to say ‘please will you check if that was a penalty?’ because that happens automatically.“But with Video Support, because there’s no VAR checking, then  nothing is looked at until somebody asks you to look at it – so it’s completely different.” More