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    Paul Merson looks exasperated after spat with Michael Dawson live on TV as ex-Arsenal and Tottenham stars get heated

    PAUL MERSON looked exasperated with fellow pundit Michael Dawson after his jibe about Arsenal fans.The pair were part of Sky Sports’ team covering the North London derby.Michael Dawson poked fun at Paul Merson after Arsenal’s winMerse was left baffled by Dawson’s remarkArsenal won the contest 3-2 after leading 3-0 at half-time, with Dawson making fun of the pressure the Gunners put their own supporters under.He said: “At the end Arsenal are hanging on and they’re nervous they’re going for a title.”Nerves kick in and obviously for Merse and Arsenal and all those fans they go home happy.”Merse the replied to the former Tottenham defender’s comments.READ MORE IN FOOTBALLHe said: “It helps them in good stead for next year though Tottenham, that fightback.”An awkward silence followed as Merson shot Dawson a puzzled look as he shook his head with his mouth agape, before host Dave Jones joked that “we’ll move on to the bigger picture later”.BEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERSRoy Keane allowed himself a wry smile as Micah Richards cheekily looked away, clearly feeling the tension in the air.Merson will be the happier of the two after his former side Arsenal boosted their title credentials.Most read in FootballMikel Arteta’s side made hard work for themselves as they gifted Spurs two goals, with David Raya passing the ball straight to Cristian Romero to score.Arsenal are still relying on Manchester City dropping points to claim their first league title for 22 years, and still have to visit Manchester United as well as hosting Everton and Bournemouth.Jamie Redknapp names the two games that will decide whether Man City, Liverpool or Arsenal will win Premier League title More

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    Jeff Stelling hails ‘most difficult pundit in history’ after being accused of Soccer Saturday reunion ‘snub’

    JEFF STELLING brilliantly praised Rodney Marsh on social media after the ex-Soccer Saturday presenter dubbed his old colleague the “most difficult pundit in history”.Stelling, 69, reunited with some of the show’s most iconic names earlier this week as he enjoyed a dinner with Tony Cottee, Phil Thompson, Alan McInally, Chris Kamara and one of the producers.(L-R) Tony Cottee, Phil Thompson, Sky Sports producer, Jeff Stelling, Chris Kamara and Alan McInally at a Soccer Saturday reunion dinnerCredit: X/chris_kammyRodney Marsh was sacked from Soccer Saturday in 2005 after 11 years on the showCredit: PA:Press AssociationBut ex-QPR, Man City and England forward Marsh, 79, who worked on Soccer Saturday for 11 years, did not get an invite to the meal.He was sacked in January 2005 for making an on-air joke about the devastating tsunamis that had hit Thailand weeks earlier.Marsh replied to Kamara’s photo of the dinner with a laughing emoji and the words: “I must not be on  the mailing list.”To which Kammy responded with a similar emoji and the message: “You’re a recluse Rodney.”READ MORE ON JEFF STELLINGStelling picked Marsh as the “most difficult colleague” he had worked with after his departure last year.But the pair had a heartwarming exchange on X on Friday after an article was published about Marsh’s response to the photo.Marsh joked: “Life’s ironic, the first time I met @JeffStelling I thought he was a total prat………”To which Stelling replied: “Rod the flight from Florida would have cost less than the meal we had!!Most read in FootballCASINO SPECIAL – BEST CASINO WELCOME OFFERSWhere are the former Soccer Saturday stars now?
    Jeff Stelling can now be found presenting talkSPORT’s Breakfast show alongside Ally McCoist between 6am and 10am on Monday and Tuesday mornings.
    Last year he and old pal Chris Kamara travelled to Sri Lanka together to tackle “The Devil’s Staircase” together while appearing on World’s Most Dangerous Roads.
    Kammy, 66, has been raising awareness for people with Apraxia, having left Sky in 2022 as he managed his illness.
    Charlie Nicholas now has a newspaper column in Scotland, and recently took part in a BBC Scotland documentary titled “Pitch Invasion: How the Scottish and Irish Changed Football”.
    Phil Thompson regularly shares his football views with bookmaker Paddy Power, while Matt Le Tissier can be found appearing on podcasts sharing conspiracy theories.
    Tony Cottee is often found on talkSPORT, while he also appeared on SunSport’s The Tap In last month.
    Rodney Marsh, meanwhile, has been hosting the programme “Grumpy Pundits” on American broadcaster Sirius XM since 2015.
    And Paul Merson is the only member of the old gang to still regularly feature on Soccer Saturday.

    “And I will put it on record – without you being the most difficult pundit in history the show would never have seen its 3rd birthday, let alone its 30th!”Hope you are well mate.”Jeff Stelling calls out Sky Sports for coverage of Arsenal’s win over Brighton and says solution ‘is not brain surgery’Before Marsh added: “Cheers mate, I’ll never forget when you were once asked ‘Why does everyone take an instant dislike to Rodney Marsh’? You replied ‘It saves time’! 🤣”Cottee and Liverpool legend Thompson were both axed back in 2021 after two decades on the programme.Matt Le Tissier and Charlie Nicholas were also let go by Sky Sports, while the much-loved Chris Kamara announced his departure in 2022 due to health reasons.Presenter Stelling finally quit last summer and he is now starring in a new role on talkSPORT. More

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    Where the iconic cast of Soccer Saturday is now as Sky Sports legends Jeff Stelling and Co reunite for dinner

    CHRIS KAMARA has put fans in a nostalgic mood after sharing a picture of himself with a host of his former Soccer Saturday pals out for dinner.The long-running Sky Sports show has undergone a series of major changes in recent years.Chris Kamara shared an amazing picture on social mediaCredit: X/chris_kammyRegular studio pundits Charlie Nicholas, Phil Thompson and Matt Le Tissier were all axed as part of a huge shake-up in 2020 – with only Paul Merson and Ally McInally surviving the cull.Kamara then departed due to health issues in 2022, with the popular analyst battling Apraxia.Jeff Stelling, 69, also planned to quit at the end of the 2021-22 season, before performing a dramatic U-turn.But he did call it a day for good last year, bringing an end to over 25 years anchoring the programme.READ MORE IN FOOTBALLThe show continues to thrive, with presenter Simon Thomas now joined by pundits including Michael Dawson, Clinton Morrison, Tim Sherwood, Sue Smith and of course, Merse.But after Kammy’s picture, featuring him with former producer Ian Condron, Stelling, McInally, Tony Cottee and Phil Thompson, let’s explore what the Soccer Saturday stars of yesteryear are now up to.JEFF STELLINGAs popular as ever, Stelling has now dipped his toes into the world of radio.The veteran broadcaster joined talkSPORT in December and hosts their Breakfast show between 6am and 10am on Monday and Tuesday mornings alongside Ally McCoist.Most read in FootballCASINO SPECIAL – BEST CASINO WELCOME OFFERSLast year, Stelling also reunited with old pal Kammy to appear on the television programme “World’s Most Dangerous Roads”.The show saw the duo travel to Sri Lanka, where they took on the notorious “Devil’s Staircase”.Sky Sports Soccer Saturday host forced to resist ‘doing a Jeff Stelling’ on live TV after goal in huge derby clashJeff Stelling presented Soccer Saturday for more than 25 yearsCredit: Sky SportsThe 69-year-old can now be found presenting on talkSPORTCredit: talkSPORTCHARLIE NICHOLASDespite his Sky axing four years ago, former Arsenal star Nicholas still has an outlet to relay his football views.The Scot, 62, has a column in the Scottish Daily Express – regularly opining on goings on at Rangers and former club Celtic.Nicholas also returned to TV screens earlier this year, when he featured in a BBC Scotland documentary alongside Graeme Souness.The three-part series was titled “Pitch Invasion: How the Scottish and Irish Changed Football”, and also included contributions from the likes of John McGinn, Jonny Evans and David Moyes.Charlie Nicholas was previously a regular on Soccer SaturdayThe former Celtic man can still be found offering his opinions for other outletsCredit: PAPHIL THOMPSONFormer Liverpool captain Thommo can now be seen giving analysis for Paddy Power.The 70-year-old offers his views on all the latest football goings on for the bookmaker, and regularly shares clips to his X profile.Otherwise, Thompson, who also works as an after-dinner speaker, now enjoys having Saturdays off.He magnanimously told the Off the Ball podcast in 2020: “Every good thing comes to an end, and I’ve just had an absolutely terrific time doing it.”Phil Thompson was part of Soccer Saturday’s major cull in 2020Credit: Sky SportsThompson, 70, now enjoys his Saturdays offCredit: Sportsfile – SubscriptionMATT LE TISSIERFormer Southampton star Le Tissier now regularly shares conspiracy theories on social media.He has appeared on podcasts with Ben Heath and James English – as well as making more football-related appearances with Simon Jordan and old pal Stelling.Le Tissier, 55, has also posted promotional material for a CBD product.Although in February this year, the watchdog Advertising Standards Authority deemed Le Tissier to have broken UK advertising rules by not making clear that he was being paid.Matt Le Tissier was also axed by Sky in 2020Credit: GettyLe Tissier, 55, has shared plenty of conspiracy theoriesCredit: PACHRIS KAMARAKammy, 66, has done inspiring work raising awareness for people who suffer from Apraxia since leaving Soccer Saturday in 2022.The condition affects the brain and nervous system and can impact someone’s ability to speak.Having made great strides since first being diagnosed with the condition, Kamara joined Stelling in Sri Lanka for “World’s Most Dangerous Roads”.He has also released a new book, entitled “Kammy: My Unbelievable Life”, which came out last November and was awarded an MBE last year.Chris Kamara left Sky Sports in 2022Credit: GettyKammy, 66, received an MBE last yearCredit: GettyTONY COTTEEFormer West Ham star Cottee revealed that he’d been axed by Sky Sports following the conclusion of the 2020-21 season.Fans can still enjoy the 58-year-old’s analysis, with Cottee now a regular on talkSPORT.The popular pundit can also still be found on screen from time to time.And last month he joined SunSport’s “The Tap In” alongside Will Pugh and Isabelle Barker to discuss all things West Ham.Tony Cottee left Sky in 2021Cottee, 58, appeared on The Tap In last monthRODNEY MARSHFormer England forward Marsh, 79, left Soccer Saturday all the way back in 2005 after he was axed for making an on-air joke about the devastating tsunamis that had just hit Thailand.Marsh appeared to be snubbed from Kammy’s recent get together, replying to his former colleague’s picture on social media: “I must not be on  the mailing list.”READ MORE SUN STORIESStelling once claimed on talkSPORT: “The worst colleague I’ve ever worked on screen with? Rodney Marsh.”Since leaving UK telly, Marsh has worked on radio show “Grumpy Pundits” on American network SiriusXM.Rodney Marsh featured on Soccer Saturday alongside the late George BestCredit: PA:Press AssociationMarsh, 79, was axed from the panel in 2005Credit: Rex More

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    ‘Psychopathic’ Arsenal Invincible ‘would have been a criminal if it weren’t for football’, jokes former team-mate

    EMMANUEL PETIT claims football “saved” fellow Arsenal legend Martin Keown from a life of crime.Petit revealed the ex-hardman “reminded me of psychopaths” but controlled his behaviour as he knew he was being watched on TV.Martin Keown famously confronted Man Utd’s Ruud Van NistelrooyCredit: GettyEmmanuel Petit says he and fellow midfielder Patrick Vieira were ‘so happy’ to have Keown playing behind themCredit: Action Images – ReutersKeown, 57, now a BBC and BT Sport pundit, won the last of his three Premier League titles with the Gunners as one of the 2003-4 “Invincibles”.But French World Cup winner Petit reckons only the discipline of sport kept the former England centre-back on the straight and narrow.The ex-midfielder, 53, told talkSPORT: “I always told him that football saved his life. Otherwise he would have been a criminal.”You know, the rules on the pitch… the fact that he could fight on the pitch, but with referees, things like this, he knew that television was looking at him, fans were looking at him, so he had to behave – with good manners as well.READ MORE TOP STORIES”But I remember so many things with him. This guy sometimes reminds me of psychopaths.”Petit smiled as he added: “I told him football saved you. Otherwise you’ll be in trouble in normal life because he’s such a nice guy but all of a sudden in the space of one second he can change.”Keown was at the centre of one of English football’s most notorious images – aggressively taunting Manchester United Ruud van Nistelrooy over a missed penalty in September 2003.But Petit gave another dramatic example of what he believes was the defender’s sensitive temperament.Most read in FootballCASINO SPECIAL – BEST CASINO WELCOME OFFERSHe explained how Arsenal team-mates intervened against Sheffield Wednesday when Keown got his fingers around Paolo Di Canio’s throat.The former Chelsea and Barcelona star said: “You could see his eyes – he was not there anymore. He just wanted to kill Paolo Di Canio.The Wags of the North London Derby”So the way he plays, the way he used to take care of the strikers all the time – me and Patrick (Vieira) in midfield were so happy to have Martin at the back for you.”Petit also joked that Keown’s defensive partner Tony Adams was “clever” at “managing Martin just like someone who is walking with his dangerous dog”.Arsenal defensive icons Tony Adams and Keown hold the Prem trophy in 2002Credit: Getty More

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    Jeff Stelling teases return of Soccer Saturday cast on new TV show after Sky Sports legends reunite for dinner

    JEFF STELLING has teased a return for Soccer Saturday’s iconic cast in a new show.The presenting legend quit Sky Sports after 29 years as host of the Saturday afternoon programme at the end of last season.The classic Soccer Saturday team met up for dinnerCredit: @JeffStellingStelling, 69, left after a huge shake-up saw many of his colleagues axed.But the old group were back to together last night when they met up for dinner with former producer Ian Condron.Joining them around the table was Chris Kamara, Ally McInally, Tony Cottee and Phil Thompson.Stelling tweeted a photo with his pals alongside the caption: “Getting lively in here.”READ MORE IN FOOTBALLOne fan desperate to see them back on screens commented: “Jeff, you could put your own little show together on a Saturday. “You’ve got the producer there, you have the pundits and the presenter. A bit of banter seeing the scores coming in is what we all miss.”Stelling replied and seemingly teased that he would be open to a comeback, saying: “Just need a channel.”The much-loved host has landed a new role on talkSPORT’s breakfast show since leaving Sky.Most read in FootballBEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERSOpening up on why he left Soccer Saturday, Stelling told The Guardian: “The show was heading in a direction which meant it wasn’t quite the same.”Even though I’d been there a long time, I felt some of my views weren’t considered at all. Jeff Stelling and Chris Kamara cheated death on world’s most dangerous road as host reveals ‘we were nearly fertiliser'”Every week I was fighting a battle. I got tired of fighting and it was making me ill.“Eventually, I went to Sky’s management and said, ‘This is making me unwell. I’ve got to step away from it’.”Since Stelling left Soccer Saturday, Simon Thomas has taken over as host.And the likes of Clinton Morrison, Michael Dawson, Sue Smith and Kris Boyd have come in as studio pundits.Ex-Premier League referee Mike Dean is also on hand to provide his insight.Who are these famous footballers? More

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    Axed Sky Sports Soccer Saturday stars reunite for pic as ‘most difficult colleague’ says ‘I must not be on mailing list’

    THE much-loved former Sky Sports Soccer Saturday cast reunited last night – but it seems their “most difficult colleague” did not get an invite.Jeff Stelling was the face of the hit TV show for over 25 years, providing countless hilarious moments covering all of the UK’s footy action each weekend.Rodney Marsh was named as the ‘most difficult colleague’ by Jeff StellingCredit: PA:Press Association(Left-right) Tony Cottee, Phil Thompson, producer Ian Condron, Jeff Stelling, Chris kamara and Alan McInally reunited last nightCredit: X @chris_kammyBut things started to turn sour when a number of regulars were axed in 2021 as part of a huge shake-up by broadcasters following the Covid pandemic.Ex-Aston Villa and Bayern Munich striker Alan McInally survived but West Ham icon Tony Cottee and Liverpool legend Phil Thompson were both axed after two decades on the programme.Matt Le Tissier and Charlie Nicholas were also let go by Sky Sports with the much-loved Chris Kamara then announcing his departure in 2022 due to health reasons.Presenter Stelling finally quit last summer because “fighting” every week was “making him ill” and he is now starring in a new role on talkSPORT.READ MORE ON FOOTBALLHowever, this week a host of our former favourites reunited for a bite to eat and drink.‘Kammy’ shared a snap of himself sat with Stelling, McInally, Cottee and Thompson on X last night along with another man, who the ex host later revealed was Ian Condron – the “best ever producer”.He captioned that with: “5 of the lads & the producer turned up.“What a great night so far.”Most read in FootballBEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERSWhere are the former Soccer Saturday stars now?
    Jeff Stelling can now be found presenting talkSPORT’s Breakfast show alongside Ally McCoist between 6am and 10am on Monday and Tuesday mornings.
    Last year he and old pal Chris Kamara travelled to Sri Lanka together to tackle “The Devil’s Staircase” together while appearing on World’s Most Dangerous Roads.
    Kammy, 66, has been raising awareness for people with Apraxia, having left Sky in 2022 as he managed his illness.
    Charlie Nicholas now has a newspaper column in Scotland, and recently took part in a BBC Scotland documentary titled “Pitch Invasion: How the Scottish and Irish Changed Football”.
    Phil Thompson regularly shares his football views with bookmaker Paddy Power, while Matt Le Tissier can be found appearing on podcasts sharing conspiracy theories.
    Tony Cottee is often found on talkSPORT, while he also appeared on SunSport’s The Tap In last month.
    Rodney Marsh, meanwhile, has been hosting the programme “Grumpy Pundits” on American broadcaster Sirius XM since 2015.
    And Paul Merson is the only member of the old gang to still regularly feature on Soccer Saturday.

    However, one of their former team-mates on the show spotted the snap on social media and quickly responded.Ex-QPR, Man City and England forward Rodney Marsh worked on Soccer Saturday for 11 years.Soccer Saturday legend Jeff Stelling in sensational blast at Sky Sports after blunder over ‘biggest story of the day’He was sacked in January 2005 for making an on-air joke about the devastating tsunamis that just hit Thailand weeks earlier.He replied to Kamara’s post last night with a laughing emoji and the words: “I must not be on  the mailing list.”To which Kammy responded with a similar emoji and the message: “Your a recluse Rodney.”Who are these famous footballers?
    Stelling picked Marsh, 79, as the “most difficult colleague” he had worked with after his departure last year.Speaking on talkSPORT, he said: “The worst colleague I’ve ever worked on screen with? Rodney Marsh.“Ex of talkSPORT as well of course. But, you know, Rodney was a difficult so and so.“And that was just what we wanted.”Rodney Marsh worked on Soccer Saturday with Jeff Stelling for 11 yearsCredit: Rex More

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    Jamie Redknapp names the two games that will decide whether Man City, Liverpool or Arsenal will win Premier League title

    JAMIE REDKNAPP has picked the TWO key games that he believes will decide where the title ends up.And they both involve his former club Tottenham.Tottenham will have the biggest say in where the title ends upCredit: GettyJamie Redknapp has picked the two games he thinks will be mosr crucial in the run-inCredit: Sky SportsPremier League champions Manchester City closed the gap on Arsenal to a point at the top by thumping Brighton 4-0 last night.Crucially, Pep Guardiola’s men also have a game in hand on their rivals.Meanwhile, Liverpool’s hopes of winning the league in Jurgen Klopp’s farewell campaign suffered a crushing blow as they were beaten 2-0 at Everton 24 hours earlier.That left them two points behind City having played a game more.READ MORE ON FOOTBALLThe thrilling title race continues at full steam this weekend when Arsenal travel to neighbours Spurs in the North London derby.Redknapp believes if they win there then they will go all the way to the end with a 100 per cent record – but that still might not be enough to catch the Cityzens.And he says that it is Spurs that will have the biggest say in the race to be champs as they still have all three contenders left to play.The ex-England midfielder told Sky Sports: “Tottenham have a massive part to play don’t they?Most read in FootballBEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERS“They’ve obviously going to play Arsenal on Sunday which is going to be a huge game.“We’ve only got to look at what happened yesterday… with derby matches anything is possible.Most dramatic Premier League’s final daysTHE RUN-INThe Premier League title race will go right to the wire – here’s each contenders remaining fixtures:

    ARSENAL
    April 28 – Tottenham (away)
    May 4 – Bournemouth (home)
    May 12 – Manchester United (away)
    May 19 – Everton (home)
    MAN CITY
    April 28 – Nottingham Forest (away)
    May 4 – Wolves (home)
    May 11 – Fulham (away)
    May 14 – Tottenham (away)
    May 19 – West Ham (home)
    LIVERPOOL
    April 27 – West Ham (away)
    May 5 – Tottenham (home)
    May 13 – Aston Villa (away)
    May 19 – Wolves (home)

    “If Arsenal can navigate that one and get three points, I think they win all their games. Then it’s just a question of if Manchester City were to just slip up once and by slipping up I mean a draw. Then it’ll be Arsenal’s title.”Redknapp continued: “Tottenham have got a home game against Manchester City as well. They’ve got a good record against them.“Man City are rightly favourites. I’ve not always agreed with the Opta stats, but they are rightly favourites because they’ve got the history, they know how to do it.“But I do believe that Arsenal are going to keep them so honest I really do. But I just point to the Tottenham game on Sunday because that’s the big one for me.“If they win that, Arsenal win the rest of their games.”Redknapp was joined in the Sky Sports studio by former Arsenal and Man City full-back Gael Clichy.And the Frenchman also backed Spurs to have the biggest impact on where the trophy ends up.Clichy said: “Tottenham can really change the course of the race. If Arsenal goes and wins away this puts pressure on City.READ MORE SUN STORIES“But I don’t see City dropping points against [Nottingham] Forest, against Wolverhampton, against Fulham, but I see them struggling against Tottenham.“So Tottenham will have a massive say the title race but again that first game, Arsenal against Tottenham will be the big one.”Tactics Exposed: Why Kai Havertz is Arsenal’s most important playerBy Dean Scoggins
    KAI HAVERTZ endured a difficult start to life at the Emirates after his big-money move from Chelsea.
    But has now well and truly found his feet.
    The German, 24, has found his scoring boots in recent weeks, including his double against his old club.
    But Havertz has been providing much more than goals in recent months.
    In fact he has become Mikel Arteta’s most important player as Arsenal go for the title.
    That’s after the Spanish boss made a genius tactical switch.
    Click here to read all about it.
    Or to watch the brilliant video in full on YouTube. More

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    Fans convinced Sky Sports are BREAKING 3pm blackout rule to show crunch EFL clash but there’s a reason it’s allowed

    FANS have been left confused over the 3pm blackout rule, after it was announced that a League Two game will be shown by Sky Sports in that timeslot this weekend.Traditionally matches cannot be televised between 2:45pm and 5:15pm on a Saturday afternoon in the UK.Action from Colchester will be televised this SaturdayCredit: RexBroadcasters are usually restricted by the 3pm blackoutCredit: RexThis rule has been in effect since the 1960s, having been implemented in order to protect lower league attendances.Yesterday it was announced that Colchester’s League Two final day clash with Crewe Alexandra will be shown live on Sky Sports at 3pm this Saturday.The announcement left some supporters on social media confused, with one writing: “Didn’t think Saturday 3pm kick offs could be televised?”While a second asked: “I might be being thick here but what about the 3pm blackout rule?”READ MORE IN FOOTBALLAs it turns out, the last of the 3pm blackout windows for the 2023-24 season expired last weekend.There are six windows in total, with the blackout lifted during international breaks and the Christmas period.As per Uefa, the final window of the season ran between March 30 and April 20.This means that Sky Sports are free to show action from League Two this Saturday.Most read in EFLBEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERThey have chosen to broadcast Colchester vs Crewe, with both teams still having something on the line.Colchester are 22nd in the table, and could still be sucked into the bottom two.EFL club reaches agreement to build stunning new stadium after 23 years at three-sided groundFor the U’s to be relegated they would have to lose with Sutton United winning at MK Dons – and a goal difference swing of four.Crewe, meanwhile, are going into the match in sixth – and could still finish anywhere between fifth and eighth.A draw would see both sides achieve their goals, while a win either way could prove costly to the losers, depending on results from elsewhere.2023-24 3pm blackout windowsUK broadcasters were not allowed to show games between 2:45pm and 5:15pm between these dates
    August 5, 2023 – September 2, 2023
    September 16, 2023 – October 7, 2023
    October 21, 2023 – November 11, 2023
    November 25, 2023 – December 23, 2023
    January 12, 2024 – March 16, 2024
    March 30, 2024 – April 20, 2024 More