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    Dave Kidd: There’s no such thing as football clubs having their own ‘DNA’ – unless you’re talking about being ‘Spursy’

    SIXTEEN years have passed since Dimitar Berbatov left Spurs, so we should forgive him a memory lapse.But when the great Bulgarian soft-shoe shuffler turned up as a Sky pundit to watch his former club at Brighton, and claimed that tossing away a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2 “was not Spurs”, he could barely have been more wrong.Tottenham were beaten by Brighton on the weekendCredit: GettyManager Ange Postecoglou watched on as his team threw away a two-goal leadCredit: AlamyDanny Welbeck headed in the winner for the SeagullsCredit: GettyIn fairness to Berbatov, while the term ‘Spursy’ feels like the oldest of cliches, it only actually entered the footballing lexicon ten years ago.Although that’s only because, by 2014, Spurs had already been ‘Spursy’ for several decades and so everybody instinctively knew exactly what it meant.It meant stuff like snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, style over substance, softness under stress, bottling it — and choking.But can ‘Spursiness’ really be an actual thing?READ MORE IN FOOTBALLBecause most football supporters are fatalistic, believing their own club is cursed by bad luck and prone to most of those characteristics which define being ‘Spursy’.To chuck in another old chestnut — can any football club really possess a ‘DNA’? Fundamental and distinctive qualities which are unchangeable?In the decade since ‘Spursiness’ was coined, the club have gone through five managers, changed their entire playing squad apart from Ben Davies, moved into a magnificent new stadium and won nothing.If we accept that Davies isn’t the problem, then we’re going to have to believe that several entirely different bunches of blokes have, by signing on the dotted line for Spurs, become individually and collectively flaky. Which is like believing in mermaids or unicorns.Most read in FootballCASINO SPECIAL – BEST CASINO WELCOME OFFERSAnd yet, the thing is, it is actually true, isn’t it?Giorgio Chiellini said it best, after Spurs blew a lead and were knocked out of the Champions League by his Juventus side back in 2018.Giorgio Chiellini has a dig at the history of Tottenham Giorgio Chiellini fired a jibe at Spurs back in 2018Credit: EPAAntonio Conte slammed the club during his tenureCredit: Reuters“It’s the history of the Tottenham,” said the legendary Italian defensive b*****d.“They always create many chances and score so much but, in the end, they miss always something to arrive at the end. We believe in history.”That’s Chiellini — who knows a thing or two about being definitely not, in any way, Spursy — telling us that Spursiness exists.And to such an extent that even foreign clubs know exactly what it means.Sunday’s capitulation was the tenth time Spurs have lost a Premier League match having led by two or more goals. No other club has achieved this ‘feat’ on more than seven occasions.So the idea of an inherent ‘Spursiness’ is only a cliche because it holds large elements of truth.Usually, great managers give a team an identity. But they don’t tend to give a club a ‘DNA’.Sir Alex Ferguson’s Manchester United always found a way to win.Since he left, United have found many different ways in which to lose.Arsenal’s last two title-winning bosses, Arsene Wenger and George Graham, employed chalk-and-cheese playing styles.Just five years apart, Chelsea won titles under Jose Mourinho, with the meanest defence English club football has ever seen, and Carlo Ancelotti, winning three of their final four home matches 7-1, 7-0 and 8-0.So there’s no such thing as a football club’s ‘DNA’.Except, perhaps, at Tottenham, who employed Mourinho and Antonio Conte — cynical men after Chiellini’s stony heart — and still ended up pretty damned Spursy all the same.Ange Postecoglou has dismissed the ‘Spursy’ tag as ‘playground stuff’ because he is a big, gruff Aussie who doesn’t believe in pixies at the bottom of the garden.And because he is paid handsomely not to believe that Tottenham’s problems are genetic and incurable.But back in May — on the extraordinary night when Spurs lost 2-0 at home to Manchester City and most supporters went home happy because the result went a long way to denying Arsenal the title — Postecoglou suggested a fundamental weakness.“The foundations are really fragile,” he said. “The last 48 hours have shown me that. It’s inside the club, outside the club . . . everywhere.”Of course, the one permanent feature of any club is its fanbase. True supporters are in it for life.So, do Spurs supporters make Spurs ‘Spursy’?By lacking a big-club mentality, by being happier to see Arsenal denied the title than to see their own club qualify for the Champions League, as they would have done had they beaten City that nightThis is surely too simplistic.There are almost 60,000 match-going Spurs fans at every home game and hundreds of thousands more who are devoted to the club — some old, some young, some cynical, some dreamy, some who even wanted Spurs to beat City that night.Perhaps it’s just that Spurs are in a unique position among English football clubs.They are bracketed as one of the ‘Big Six’, suggesting they ought to win things, but do not enjoy the wealth of the other five, nor  Saudi-backed Newcastle.They have an enviable ancient history and a ‘To Dare Is To Do’ ethos which encapsulates the essence of the game, as part of the entertainment industry.As Conte never tired of mentioning, Spurs also boast a world-class stadium and a training ground without a playing squad to match.They now have a promising first-team forward, Mikey Moore, who was born on the first day of the 2007-08 season, the last campaign in which Tottenham actually won a trophy.Postecoglou has pretty much promised to end that barren run by stating that he ALWAYS wins a trophy in his second season at a football club.As if openly defying the idea of ‘Spursiness’ by saying such a thing out loud would banish any hint of Spursiness.After that, Spurs won five matches in a row and went 2-0 up away at Brighton.And then, as Chiellini would have it, ‘the history of the Tottenham’ repeated itself.As if it were as fundamental and unchangeable as DNA.SLOT MACHINEArne Slot was not impressed about Liverpool’s 12.30pm kick off on SaturdayCredit: AlamyHAVING promised not to do so, Arne Slot was reading from the Jurgen Klopp hymn sheet when he moaned about Saturday’s 12.30pm kick-off at Crystal Palace.Slot has enjoyed the smoothest imaginable start to life as Liverpool boss — none of the seven teams the Reds have played are in the top nine of the table.Next he must face Chelsea, Arsenal, Brighton, Aston Villa, Manchester City and Newcastle as six of his next seven Premier League fixtures, as well as European ties against Bayer Leverkusen and Real Madrid — the champions of Germany and Spain.After that little lot, we can properly judge whether the Dutchman has more in common with Klopp than merely the ability to whine about TV scheduling.A VIEW TO A VILLJhon Duran netted the winning goal against Bayern MunichCredit: GettyTHE atmosphere at Aston Villa’s Champions League win over Bayern Munich was one of the best I’ve ever experienced at a football ground, and the spectacular winner by Jhon Duran was unforgettable.Which made it all the more sad to hear a radio phone-in during which Villa supporters spoke of being priced out by tickets costing between £85 and £97.Last Wednesday night at Villa Park was a true ‘I was there’ occasion.But clearly that was only for those who could afford it.STRENGTH IN DEPTHMikel Arteta has plenty of options in his squad this seasonCredit: GettyMIKEL ARTETA freshened up his Arsenal side for Saturday’s clash with Southampton by bringing in three fringe players.Those bench-warming ‘stiffs’?READ MORE SUN STORIESRaheem Sterling and Gabriel Jesus, who have eight Premier League titles between them.And Jorginho, a European champion at club and international level.Whatever problems the Gunners may encounter during this season’s title bid, it won’t be a lack of strength in depth.Who are these famous footballers? 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    England boost as in-form star who had to be helped off pitch just days ago passes late fitness test ahead of Greece game

    NONI MADUEKE has been passed fit for England duty in a big boost for boss Lee Carsley.The Chelsea winger gave the national team boss and fans a scare when he had to be helped off the pitch in the dying moments of Sunday’s feisty draw with Nottingham Forest.Noni Madueke has been passed fit to face GreeceCredit: GettyHe has already scored four goals in the Premier League this seasonCredit: GettyMadueke hobbled straight down the tunnel after scoring an equaliser for his club in a pulsating match amid worries he had sustained a foot injury.But after 24 hours rest the in-form Blues star is ready to play for England in the forthcoming Nations League fixtures against Greece and Finland.Madueke, 22, has been one of Chelsea’s best players this season and has cemented his place in the Premier League squad.Sunday’s second-half leveller at home to Forest was his fifth goal of the campaign so far. READ MORE IN FOOTBALLHe scored a hat-trick at Wolves in August as Chelsea won that match 6-2 at the Molineux Stadium.He has also become one of Carsley’s new generation of senior England players, having been called up for the first time to the main squad during the last international break in September.Madueke was a regular for Carlsey when he was Under-21 boss and has been promoted alongside his old coach.He gained an assist in the home match against the Finns when setting up England skipper Harry Kane for his second goal at Wembley.Most read in FootballCASINO SPECIAL – BEST CASINO WELCOME OFFERSEngland are at home to Greece on Thursday then travel to Finland on Sunday.Madueke has previously hailed Carsley as a manager as well as his ability to lay out tactics for matches.Chelsea fans reckon Noni Madueke is ‘better than Saka’ as winger scores screamer in England U21s’ defeat to Ukraine He told BBC 5 Live: “First of all, he’s a great person. He’s a really good guy, and he’s very personable.”He has a lot of human qualities that makes you feel good and at home.”He’s also a great tactician. He has great ideas, and he’s also able to implement the way he wants to play in your mind and make it easy for you.”I feel that the top managers all have that, and that’s a quality that he definitely has as well.”I couldn’t speak more highly of him. He won the Euros with us.”I feel like he’s a great manager – he knows the pathway, knows the system, knows the FA, he’s been working here for a long time, similar to Gareth (Southgate) in that sense.READ MORE SUN STORIES”I hope he can do extremely well. I know I’ve got all the belief in him, for sure.”Madueke will be joined in the squad by his Chelsea team-mates Cole Palmer and Levi Colwill. More

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    Wayne Rooney charged with misconduct for red card as boss reveals he broke pal’s glasses celebrating late goal in tunnel

    WAYNE ROONEY has admitted that he joined in Plymouth’s wild celebrations against Blackburn despite being sent off.The Manchester United legend is managing the Pilgrims, having landed the Championship job in the summer.Wayne Rooney has revealed his hilarious celebration after Plymouth’s win over BlackburnCredit: RexMorgan Whittaker scored a later winner for the PilgrimsCredit: GettyRooney was unable to cheer on the sideline as he had been sent off earlier in the matchCredit: GettyRooney, 38, has enjoyed a solid start to his reign in charge of the Pilgrims, with the side currently 14th in the league.His best result came against Blackburn Rovers on Saturday as Plymouth beat the promotion contenders 2-1 at Home Park.The victory came thanks to a winning goal from Morgan Whittaker in the 97th minute.However, Rooney could not join in with the players as he had been shown a red card for a touchline outburst earlier in the match.READ MORE ON FOOTBALLThe retired striker had been dismissed by referee James Linington for his reaction to a decision in the build-up to Joe Rankin-Costello’s equaliser for the visitors.But that did not stop Rooney from having his own celebrations as he went wild with the club secretary in the tunnel.He told talkSPORT: “Me and the club secretary in the tunnel were celebrating, I broke his glasses celebrating.”So the win was a deserved win, but sometimes it boils over a little bit and that’s the nature of football.Most read in FootballCASINO SPECIAL – BEST CASINO WELCOME OFFERSRooney’s red card against Blackburn was his first since becoming a manager, despite stints at Derby County, DC United and Birmingham City.He has insisted that the decision to dismiss him was “harsh” but admitted that his reaction was not the best.Wayne Rooney hailed for management style as Plymouth surge up Championship table under Man Utd legendRooney has won three of his nine Plymouth matchesCredit: GettyHe added: “It was my first time as a manager [getting sent off].”I think as a manager or a head coach, decisions happen on the pitch and looking back, it’s a free kick, so the goal shouldn’t have stood.”In the Championship you don’t have VAR so the officials missed it and your emotions kick in and you know, I’m a passionate person, we want to win.”We worked extremely hard to win the game and to have that taken away by what I feel was a mistake by the officials, I felt was really harsh.”I reacted in a manner in which I shouldn’t have and the red card was deserved.”From my point of view the fans were fantastic, it almost galvanised the players and the stadium and we kept pushing to get the winning goal.”Rooney has since been charged the FA, though, for his conduct both during and after the incident which saw him dismissed.In a statement released on Tuesday, an FA spokesperson said: “Wayne Rooney has been charged following Plymouth Argyle’s match against Blackburn Rovers on Saturday, 5 October, in the EFL Championship.”The manager’s conduct around the 87th minute was allegedly improper and/or he used abusive and/or insulting words towards a match officials, which led to his dismissal.”It’s further alleged that his conduct after being dismissed was improper and/or violent.READ MORE SUN STORIES”It’s also alleged that by returning to the field of play after being dismissed his behaviour was improper.”Wayne Rooney has until Tuesday, 15 October, to respond.” More

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    Man Utd fans ‘gutted’ as TWO stars including new signing & in-form ace join Mainoo in pulling out of international duty

    MANCHESTER UNITED fans are concerned after learning TWO more stars have withdrawn from international duty due to injuries.Kobbie Mainoo had already pulled out of the England squad on Monday due to a fitness issue after he was replaced by Casemiro in the 85th minute during the goalless draw with Aston Villa.Erik ten Hag has another worry in the form of injury concernsCredit: GettyNoussair Mazraoui has withdrawn from the Morocco squadCredit: AlamyBut now he has been joined by two Red Devils players who also started the stalemate at Villa Park on Sunday.Right-back Noussair Mazraoui has withdrawn from the Morocco squad after being replaced by Victor Lindelof at half-time on the weekend.And Alejandro Garnacho has pulled out of Argentinian duty with an injury.That is despite having played the full 90 minutes against Villa.READ MORE ON MAN UTDAccording to Manchester Evening News, he has been managing a knee injury for the last week – the reason behind him coming off the bench in the 3-3 draw with Porto.The fitness blows are the latest concern for manager Erik ten Hag as pressure grows following Man Utd’s worst ever start to a Premier League season.Reacting to the news, one fan replied: “Ten Hag has injured half of his players while achieving draws only”.Another added: “Gutting”.Most read in FootballCASINO SPECIAL – BEST CASINO WELCOME OFFERSAlejandro Garnacho played the whole game against Aston VillaCredit: GettyA third said: “So Many Injuries. Get Well Soon 💪”.While a fourth responded: “Man Utd cursed has started”.More worries for Erik ten Hag as Harry Maguire leaves Villa Park limping after Aston Villa vs Man Utd clash Mainoo, Mazraoui and Garnacho join Harry Maguire as fresh injury worries after the England centre-back limped off during the Villa draw.Leny Yoro, Luke Shaw, Mason Mount and Tyrell Malacia are also sidelined.It comes as Man Utd bosses prepare to meet for crunch talks in London on Tuesday amid reports linking ex-Chelsea manager Thomas Tuchel with replacing Ten Hag.Man Utd player ratings vs Villa: Evans rolls back the years with Garnacho let downMANCHESTER UNITED eased the pressure slightly on boss Erik ten Hag with a hard-grafted stalemate at in-form Aston Villa.United looked much more solid defensively after Ten Hag rung the changes – though the Red Devils still have just eight points from seven Prem games.Here’s how SunSport’s Graeme Bryce rated 14th-placed United rated at Villa Park on Sunday.ANDRE ONANA – 7Guilty of sloppy distribution once or twice but his hands were safe enough and he did well to beat away a piledriver from Youri Tielemans to keep United on level terms.NOUSSAIR MAZRAOUI – 6Managed to contain Jaden Philogene comfortably enough in the first 45 minutes but failed to appear for the second half and was replaced by Victor Lindelof.HARRY MAGUIRE – 6Booked for a high forearm challenge on Ollie Watkins but his afternoon ended at half-time after he appeared to jar his knee defending a corner.JONNY EVANS – 9Handled Ollie Watkins well in the first 45 and showed all his experience to deal with the twin threat of Watkins and Jhon Duran for the final half hour. Rolled back the years with a five-star display to earn his Man of the Match rating.DIOGO DALOT – 7Sat in and rarely got forward but snuffed out the threat of Leon Bailey and was tidy enough. Crucial block to deny Philogene a stoppage time winner.CHRISTIAN ERIKSEN – 7Used all his experience to plug any gaps in United’s carefully constructed midfield. Dealt with the threat from Morgan Rogers well.KOBBIE MAINOO – 7Nothing flashy from the England midfielder who had his work cut out preventing Youri Tielemans carrying out his magic.ALEJANDRO GARNACHO – 6Fired in a first-half shot which Emi Martinez dealt with comfortably but shot hopelessly wide a couple of times after the break. Sloppy finishing let him down. BRUNO FERNANDES – 8United’s skipper only played after his red card against Spurs was overturned on appeal.Kept his cool here to avoid a third red card in three games – came closest for United with a free kick which crashed off the Villa crossbar.MARCUS RASHFORD – 7Taken off at half-time in Oporto and taken off after 64 minutes to save himself a second yellow card here! Looked United’s likeliest match-winner after forcing an early save from Martinez before bringing the best out in the Argentine World Cup winner with a sizzling effort which the ‘keeper tipped over. Booked for a foul on Cash.RASMUS HOJLUND – 6Put himself about and was involved in the clash which led to Ezri Konsa limping off. But lacked service and was replaced by Zirkzee just beyond the hour mark. Below par.SUBSMATTHIJS DE LIGT for Maguire (46 minutes) – 5 – Conceded a few fouls in dangerous areas. Still finding his feet.VICTOR LINDELOF for Mazraoui (46 mins) – 6 – First appearance since March but fitted in well as a stand-in right-back. Booked for a foul on Morgan Rogers.JOSHUA ZIRKZEE for Hojlund (64 mins) – 5 – Miles off the pace, failed to make any impact.ANTONY for Rashford (64 mins) – 6 – Brought out the best in Emi Martinez with a curler which was heading for the top bin until the keeper plucked it out of mid-air.CASEMIRO for Mainoo (85 mins) – 6 – Helped see out the match for United. More

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    How Erik ten Hag finally got something right at Man Utd but selfish runners may still get under-fire boss sacked

    MANCHESTER UNITED played out a cagey goalless draw with Aston Villa – but Erik Ten Hag’s set up was miles ahead from the Spurs hammering.But avoiding defeat to Bayern conquerors Villa has not necessarily saved Ten Hag’s job with United’s forward play still dire.Erik ten Hag is still in danger of losing his jobCredit: GettyMarcus Rashford was among the forward players who failed to penetrate VillaCredit: GettySunSport’s Dean Scoggins breaks down where it improved for UnitedIn a way, Ten Hag deserves his short holiday over the international break after avoiding the Unai Emery-inspired pasting that many thought was coming his way.But Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Joel Glazer are still set for showdown talks with club chiefs over Ten Hag’s future in London on Tuesday.The Dutchman’s set-up may have left United’s top brass and pundits applauding the defensive improvement, but the Red Devils still lacked a cutting edge going forward.Hojlund solves pressing issueMan Utd have somehow, for now, worked out their pressing conundrum – but Rasmus Hojlund must play.READ MORE ON MAN UTDHojlund’s first Prem start this term saw the striker lead a one man press – and he has a better understanding of when to chase than Joshua Zirkzee.The Red Devils were slaughtered for their poor 2 v 2 pressing up top against Spurs, where Rodrigo Bentancur had a field day.But this time Bruno Fernandes dropped back into his normal No10 role, having previously been asked to press alongside the striker.After playing a flat 4-4-2 press this season, Ten Hag switched things up with a 4-4-1-1 and it worked well as Fernandes was more disciplined.Most read in FootballFOOTBALL FREE BETS AND SIGN UP DEALSKobbie Mainoo and surprise choice Christian Eriksen had a strong positional sense, and a tireless Alejandro Garnacho was more aware of his defensive role.The new pressing set-up did well to shut down the Villa midfield and was unrecognisable from the system that allowed Spurs the freedom of Old Trafford the week before.Rasmus Hojlund made a huge difference to United’s pressThe one-man press allowed Bruno Fernandes to drop into midfield with more disciplineMore worries for Erik ten Hag as Harry Maguire leaves Villa Park limping after Aston Villa vs Man Utd clash Selfish runners in attackWhile there were defensive improvements, Man Utd’s forward stars continued to perform as individuals against Villa.Hojlund, Fernandes, Garnacho and Marcus Rashford charged forward selfishly and failed to make runs that created space for their team-mates.Despite working hard, Garnacho’s efforts to get forward were often misguided runs at the penalty spot, which narrowed the space at the front post.The Argentine must make more back post runs, to force the opposing full-back to track him and get drawn away from the goal, thus opening space in the box for other players to attack.On one occasion, Rashford had the ball down the left wing, with five Villa defenders in front of him because his team-mates made selfish runs into a narrow space in the box.United need more sacrificial off-the-ball movement. It seems maybe they just don’t trust each other and would prefer to try to get on the end of every chance themselves.Selfish runs by United’s forward players hindered their attackBoth United wingers regularly made narrow runsOnana steps upAdopting more of a Pep Guardiola approach to playing out from the back, Andre Onana often stepped up into the back four.When the ball was on the left hand side, Diogo Dalot moved into midfield, a centre-half pulled wide and Onana went in as an extra centre-back.It gave United an extra man higher up the pitch in an almost 11 vs 10 scenario, with Emiliano Martinez stuck between the Villa sticks.This allowed United to play with more structure and confidence from the back, with Evans – who defended stoutly throughout – going on to win man of the match.READ MORE SUN STORIESBut fans need to see this on a more regular basis.Brighton have managed to adopt two distinct styles under two new managers since Ten Hag’s 2022 appointment – while the Dutchman’s identity is preferred way of playing is still impossible to fathom.Andre Onana was told to step up into the back lineOnana’s footwork was one of the main reasons he was brought to Old TraffordCredit: GettyRasmus Hojlund’s return marks positive news for Ten Hag More

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    Under-fire Man Utd boss Erik ten Hag believes he’s SAFE from sack and jets off on holiday amid Ratcliffe’s crunch talks

    ERIK TEN HAG has jetted off on holiday — as he is confident Manchester United will not sack him during the international break.United are off to their worst start in 35 YEARS under the Dutchman, with just eight points from seven games to leave them 14th in the table. Manchester United boss Erik ten Hag has gone on holiday despite coming under fireCredit: GettySir Jim Ratcliffe and the rest of Man Utd’s executives are about to decide the manager’s fateCredit: PAHis future is certain to be discussed at the next meeting of United executives — including co-owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe — in London.But it is understood Ten Hag spoke to Old Trafford’s top brass following Sunday’s goalless draw at Aston Villa and did not get the impression he was facing the chop.Sources stress the upcoming meeting is a regular monthly get-together and has not been arranged because of their recent poor form.Ratcliffe and Joel Glazer were both at the Theatre of Dreams and Carrington for meetings, along with club legend Gary Neville and also Sir Alex Ferguson.Read More on Man UtdFormer Chelsea boss Thomas Tuchel — who was approached by United in the summer — is still available.And Ten Hag’s new sidekick Ruud van Nistelrooy is a hero to fans and could be asked to hold the fort if United do decide to make a change.The 54-year-old tactician is due back from his jollies at the weekend and the Red Devils do not have a game until they host Brentford a week on Saturday.United’s 250-goal record scorer Wayne Rooney wants the club to stick with Ten Hag for the Bees’ visit — and beyond.Most read in FootballBEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERSPlymouth boss Rooney told talkSPORT: “I hope he’ll stay in charge. It’s been frustrating to see them 14th — that’s not where they want to be.”Ten Hag has defended his record by pointing to United lifting the Carabao Cup and FA Cup under him.Erik ten Hag and Ruud van Nistelrooy caught in heated conversation during Man Utd’s draw at Villa But Roo, 38, added: “Your season is the Prem, there’s no better feeling than winning it.“They have gone quite a few years without challenging. It’s important you don’t let that slide.” More

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    Arsenal and Chelsea to be dragged into Man City vs Premier League legal battle as landmark case leads to bitter war

    MANCHESTER CITY’S legal brawl with the Prem is set to drag rivals, including Arsenal and Chelsea, into the fight.In what was hailed a landmark ruling, the Prem champs claimed victory as an element of the rules on commercial deals involving companies linked to clubs’ owners was judged “unlawful”.Manchester City claimed victory in a dispute with the Premier LeagueCredit: GettyMan City’s legal battle with the Prem is set to drag Arsenal and Chelsea inCredit: GettyArsenal and Chelsea are believed to have ploughed hundreds of millions into the club in loansCredit: AlamyIt related to shareholder loans not being included in the “Associated Party Transaction” calculation.Arsenal owners the Kroenkes are believed to have ploughed nearly £260million into the club in loans. Chelsea received £146m in the first year of their new ownership model.Brighton’s Tony Bloom has put £373m into the Seagulls, while Everton, who are subject to a takeover from The Friedkin Group, have the highest shareholder loans at £451m.That has been loaned at low or even zero interest and will almost certainly now need recalculating.Read More on FootballFormer Master of the Rolls — the country’s second most senior lawyer — Lord Dyson and two fellow judges agreed the rule preventing City from responding to the Prem over “Fair Market Value” of two proposed deals was “procedurally unfair”.But a number of City’s other claims against Prem rules “failed”, including that the League wrongly applied its regulations.Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Brentford, West Ham, Fulham, Wolves and Bournemouth gave evidence on behalf of the Prem.It has all left battle lines drawn even deeper — with the case into City’s alleged 115 financial breaches still being heard.Most read in FootballBEST FREE BET SIGN UP OFFERS FOR UK BOOKMAKERSCity launched the case after tighter rules were voted in by Prem clubs at a meeting in February.The club said yesterday: “The Tribunal found both the original APT rules and the current (amended) APT Rules violate UK competition law and procedural fairness . . . ”Man City vs Fulham: Player Ratings Breakdown“The Premier League was specifically unfair in how it applied those rules to the Club in practice.“They deliberately excluded shareholder loans while the Premier League reached decisions in a procedurally unfair manner.”City’s case centred on two sponsorship proposals, with First Abu Dhabi Bank and Etihad Aviation Group.But while the Arbitration Tribunal — which heard evidence in June — did side with City on some matters, League bosses claimed THEY had won.A Prem spokesman said: “Manchester City brought a wholesale challenge to the APT Rules.“The club was unsuccessful in the majority of its challenge.“Significantly, the Tribunal determined the APT Rules are necessary.“It rejected Manchester City’s argument that APT Rules were to discriminate against clubs with ownership from the ‘Gulf region’.“Except in two respects, it found that Manchester City’s arguments were unfounded.”READ MORE SUN STORIESBut League chiefs believe they need only make minor changes — and new rules will be tabled for club chiefs to vote on as soon as next week.The spokesman added: “In the meantime, the Premier League will operate the existing APT system, taking into account the findings made by the Tribunal.”Man City vs the Premier League: Q&ABy Martin LiptonBOTH Manchester City and the Premier League were claiming a win after their legal scrap over Associated Party Transactions.SunSport sifts the claims to try to explain the latest issues.What was the case about?City were furious that Prem bosses brought in new tougher regulations – by the smallest possible majority under League rules – in February. They were aimed at blocking clubs bypassing financial controls by earning “unfair” amounts via sponsorship from a company with the same owners, or selling players on the cheap to teams under the same ownership umbrella.Why were City so upset?The Etihad club argued that the rules were illegal and had been deliberately aimed at them by rivals and were both flawed and politically driven. They also branded the “two thirds support” rule that has been part of Prem regulations since its inception as a “tyranny of the majority”This was an Arbitration Tribunal – explain that?Under Prem rules, any club has the right to ask for Arbitration if they are unhappy about the regulations or due process. The three retired judges heard evidence in June and their full ruling was distributed to the 20 Prem clubs on Monday afternoon.And what did they say?Depending on who you listen to, they either totally vindicated one side or the other. The actual answer is that there were “wins” for both City and the Prem. But it’s your choice which ones meant more.OK, what were City’s wins?Maybe the most important one in terms of the repercussions. That both the new rules and the previous version – brought  in after Saudi Arabia’s PIF bought Newcastle in 2021 –  were “unlawful” as they exclude shareholder loans to clubs in any APT calculations.  City also won over their claims that the rulebook prevented them from responding to Prem decisions over whether two proposed deals with Abu Dhabi companies represented “Fair Market Value”, access to the “databank” of comparable deals and the time it took for decisions to be reached.That sounds pretty big. So what about the Prem’s side?The key finding as far as the League is concerned is that the Tribunal backed the concept of APT rules as well as the Fair Market Value tests. Additionally, City’s challenges to the actual decisions on the two proposed deals “failed”. Prem bosses insist the “rulebook has been found to comply with competition and public law standards and is an effective and necessary system”.Is that it, then?Of course not. That shareholder loan issue is a big deal, given that it is believed owners have loaned around £1.5bn at low or preferential rates across the Prem. Those loans will almost certainly have to be calculated at commercial rates now, unless the owners convert them into shares. But the League is convinced the main thrust of the rules remains valid.And what will be the impact on the “115 charges” case?Probably nothing. That is an allegation of breaking the rules, while this matter was City questioning whether one small element of the current rulebook was legitimate. But City are using the same legal team, headed by £10,000 per hour Lord Pannick KC. And the stakes on the bigger case are a great deal higher. More

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    Arsenal confident Kai Havertz will be ready after international break despite knee issue keeping him from Germany duty

    ARSENAL expect Kai Havertz to be fully fit and firing after the international break.The Gunners striker pulled out of Germany duty at the weekend with “knee problems” – missing Nations League clashes against Bosnia and Herzegovina and the Netherlands.Kai Havertz finished the game against Southampton without any knee strappingCredit: ReutersHavertz netted Arsenal’s equaliser on the way to a 3-1 victory over SouthamptonCredit: GettyHavertz, 25, played the full 90 minutes in a 3-1 Prem win over Southampton on Saturday, scoring at the Emirates for the seventh game in a row in all competitions.But SunSport understands the German star has been managing a minor knee issue since the end of last season – something that he carried over into the Euros.Havertz has not been immune to knee knocks in his career, but they have seen him miss just two club games – one apiece at Bayer Leverkusen and Chelsea – since August 2017.In order to avoid any further damage or stress on the area, Havertz will remain at London Colney during this break for some much-needed rest and recovery before facing Bournemouth on October 19.read more arsenalYet the Arsenal are not losing sleep over the player’s fitness, in the knowledge it is simply the wear and tear of an intense few months of football.Havertz played the full 90 minutes in 11 of Arsenal’s remaining 16 Prem games last season before doing the same in three of Germany’s five Euros outings in the summer.This term, he has started and finished all but one of the club’s 12 games in all competitions, such has been his influence with six goals already – including four in his last four.As such, this 12-day break before travelling to the Cherries has come at the perfect time with Mikel Arteta’s first-choice striker playing with a slight discomfort.Most read in FootballFOOTBALL FREE BETS AND SIGN UP DEALSArsenal’s wage bill has risen over the past few seasonsNot that it is showing on the pitch, currently in the form of his life and one of Arteta’s most important figures in Arsenal’s title push having also netted 14 in 51 games last term.And Arteta needs Havertz at his best for a gruelling upcoming fixture slog that includes taking on title rivals Liverpool at home on October 27.After that, three tough trips on the bounce to Newcastle, Inter Milan and then Chelsea.Arsenal will be hoping to have several other big names back for that run, including skipper Martin Odegaard and defensive trio Oleksandr Zinchenko, Jurrien Timber and Ben White. More